FREEZONE BIBLE ASSOCIATION TECH POST

LEVEL 2 ACADEMY LECTURES 10/15

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LEVEL 2 TAPES

CONTENTS:

01 SHSBC-62 ren 66 4 Oct 61 Moral Codes: What is a Withhold? 
02 SHSBC-63 ren 67 5 Oct 61 Sec Checking: Types of Withholds 
03 SHSBC-72 ren 76 26 Oct 61 Security Checking: Auditing Errors
04 SHSBC-75 ren 79 2 Nov 61 How to Security Check 
05 SHSBC-100 ren 104 16 Jan 62 Nature of Withholds 
06 SHSBC-117 ren 117 14 Feb 62 Directing Attention
07 SHSBC-113 ren 119 20 Feb 62 What Is a Withhold?
08 SHSBC-131 ren 135 3 Apr 62 The Overt-Motivator Sequence
09 TVD-4A ren 149 2 May 62 TV Demo: Prepchecking, Part I
10 TVD-4B ren 150 2 May 62 TV Demo: Prepchecking, Part II
11 SHSBC-142 ren 151 3 May 62 Craftsmanship: Fundamentals 
12 SHSBC-151 ren 159 22 May 62 Missed Withholds 
13 TVD-7 ren 161 23 May 62 TV Demo:Fish & Fumble-Checking Dirty Needles
14 SHSBC-206 ren 235 1 Nov 62 The Missed Missed Withhold 
15 SHSpec-26 ren 389 2 Jul 64 O/W Modernized and Reviewed 

Like most levels tapes, these are SHSBC (St. Hill Special Briefing
Course) lectures. The original numbering has the TV demos (TVD)
numbered independently and restarts the numbering from 1 again
in 1964 (designated SH Special instead of SHSBC). The clearsound
renumbering combines these (SHSBC + TVD + SHSpec) into one
continuous set of numbers shown as "ren" above.

These are based on clearsound and were checked against the
old reels in most cases (as noted). Omissions are marked ">".
Most omissions are of introducing new students etc. but there
were significant omissions of technical material in item 07
"What is a Withhold". Also, item 13 (TVD-7) had significant
omissions in the old reels, marked "#", which were restored in
the clearsound version.


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TV DEMO PREPCHECKING PART 2

TVD-4B rennumbered SHSBC-150 2 May 62 
TV Demo: Prepchecking, Part II

A lecture given on 2 May 1962

[Based on Clearsound only, not checked against the old reels.]



LRH: (laughs) All right. Pick up the cans.

- Okay, honey. Is it all right with you if I begin this
session now?

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. Here it is. Start of session. Has the
session started for you? 

PC: - Mmm. (clears throat)

LRH: Very good. All right. How are you - doing?

PC: Well, I'm fine now that I'm back in the chair. I was a
bit dispersed (chuckles) out in the hall.

LRH: Oh, yeah. AU right. Now, very good. Have I missed a
withhold on you? 

PC: No.

LRH: Well, there's a little latent tick here. There might
be something on it. (pause) There it is.

PC: Well yeah. Just uh . . . (chuckles) I was pretty,
pretty far out of present time when you (laughs) ended the
session.

LRH: All right. All right. Okay.

PC: That's...

LRH: All right. Did I fail to find out about that?

PC: Yeah:

LRH: All right. When was that?

PC: Well, when I went clattering down the hall by myself I
couldn't find Suzie's bathroom.

LRH: All right. Very good. Okay. Now, have I missed a
withhold on you?

PC: No.

LRH: All right. Is there anything else there? Any other
thing I might have missed a withhold on?

PC: Mm-mm [no].

LRH: Okay. Now let me check this.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: Have I missed a withhold on you? All right. That's
going independently.

PC: What does that mean?

LRH: Now, you listen to me.

PC: All right.

LRH: Now, you listen to me now.

PC: Okay.

LRH: To me. To me. All right. Have I missed a withhold on you?

PC: No.

LRH: That's right. You're absolutely right. (chuckles)

All right. Now, we were going great guns here on something
that happened in a cornfield.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: All right. Now, is it all right with you if I get on
with this?

PC: Sure.

LRH: All right. Now, apparently you've been packing an
awful lot of they-should-have-found-out-about-me's here,
on this subject.

PC: Um.

LRH: Hm?

PC: Mostly Mother, yeah.

LRH: Well has this been basic - yes, it's Mother all right,
because I've got a double tick here I'm following down.

PC: Umm.

LRH: It's a - I'm getting wider ... the closer we get in to
the base on this, why, the more we're getting close to this
little - double tick. Okay?

PC: Mmm.

LRH: And that's what we're looking for. We're looking for
something ... Apparently every time you say something
about your mother or his mother, or something, we get this
double tick.

PC: Yeah?

LRH: See, I can turn this on here. All right. What should
your mother have found out about you? See, and there's a ... 
there it is (chuckles) - little one.

PC: Yeah, this is ...

LRH: See, I say something on that order. Now, you want so
answer that question? 

PC: Well, sure. She should have found out that I wasn't ah ... 
as pure and perfect as she thought I was.

LRH: As who was?

PC: As she thought I was.

LRH: Oh, all right. All right.

PC: Or that she insisted that I should be ...

LRH: All right.

PC: ... is more in line.

LRH: All right. Now, we're following down the track here
about sleeping with a man to trap him.

PC: Umm.

LRH: And we're mining gold all the way. But I think there
is an incident before 1926.

PC: I think there is, too, but I haven't a clue.

LRH: And where is it? You said two years earlier.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: And you didn't know whether it was or wasn't. Well,
what happened two years before this time? Where were you
living?

PC: In uh ...

LRH: That's it.

PC: Park City.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: Montana.

LRH: Park City what?

PC: Montana.

LRH: Montana. Park City. All right. And is there some sort
of an incident there where you got all missed up with
somebody or something?

PC: Mm-mm [no].

LRH: Is there any incident in Park City? I don't know here.
I'm getting a little bit of a rough line.

PC: Well, there could be but...

LRH: Is there some incident in Park City? No it isn't Park
City. Is there some ...

PC: Is it Glen Ullin - Glen Ullin, North Dakota, then?

LRH: Is that earlier?

PC: Well, that would be in - when I was four, we moved from ...

LRH: Yeah.

PC: ... Glen Ullin to Park City.

LRH: Well, haven't you any memory back of ...

PC: No.

LRH: ... that at all, huh?

PC: Just splotchy pictures.

LRH: Hm-hm. Just got some pictures?

PC: Mm.

LRH: What pictures?

PC: Well, I've got a picture of a stone house that I assume
is my birthplace.

LRH: All right.

PC: Then later in Park City, I've got a couple or three pictures.

LRH: Hm-hm. All right. Is there any other - incident here
with your brothers? I get a little slowdown there.

PC: Well, there is the one incident with my brother Bob.
But this is not on sex-line stuff.

LRH: What about that, what roughly?

PC: Well, I was supposed to care for him, and ...

LRH: And you didn't.

PC: Well, there's some mystery on this one. I don't
understand my reactions in that.

LRH: Well, what is your reaction?

PC: Well, a little girl tried to take him away from me, and
I got panicky ...

LRH: Hm-hm,

PC: ... and it's way out of proportion to the situation.

LRH: Well, what happened?

PC: I hit her in the stomach with a rock.

LRH: And what happened with that?

PC: That's all. Just - she... I - it hurt.

LRH: Hm-mm.

PC: And I got my brother back, but ...

LRH: Hm. How old were you then?

PC: Four.

LRH: About four. Is that the incident here on the 19...

PC: 1924.

LRH: That's the 1924 incident.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: That's it. Tick-tick.

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right. This have to do with a man?

PC: Hm. Took my brother, who was a ...

LRH: All right. Well was he ...

PC: he was younger.

LRH: What was he? A boy?

PC: Mm-hm. Two.

LRH: All right. It had to do with a boy.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: All right. And what about this boy?

PC: Well I was supposed to take care of hm.

LRH: Right ...

PC: Mother said I should look out for him.

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: Ant uh ... I had agreed to ... to care for him.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: But uh ... this little girl was just teasing, said I
was ... she was going to take him away from me. And
just - I got panicky.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And I it is - it was just almost a reflex action. I
picked up the rock and threw it at her to stop her ...

LRH: Hm-mm.

PC: ... from taking him away. I don't know where the hell
she would have taken him.

LRH: Yeah.

PC: She was only four, too.

LRH: Yeah.

PC: You see?

LRH: And where did the rock cut her?

PC: In the stomach.

LRH: Uh-huh. She bleed much?

PC: It didn't cut her.- It just went POW in her stomach.

LRH: I see. It just went POW in her stomach. Did she bleed much?

PC: She didn't bleed at all.

LRH: Are you sure?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: You're sure?

PC: Well, no. Of course, I'm not sure. (laughs) But I don't
think so.

LRH: Come on. How seriously was this little girl injured?

PC: Well she ... she cried. And I just imagine, because
it hit her in the stomach, that it was awful painful. It is
when it - when I get hit in the stomach.

LRH: Huh?

PC: It's...

LRH: What else did you do to her?

PC: That's all - I think.

LRH: All right. Did you hit her in the stomach?

PC: Mmm.

LRH: With a rock.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: That's it. With a rock.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: All right. Who else did you hit with a rock?

PC: Oh, well, heavens, I ...

LRH: Oh, well, now we're onto something else.

PC: Now, yeah. But not earlier. I mean, I used to throw
rocks at my brothers. I don't think I ever hit them though.

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: I was a lousy shot.

LRH: All right. But which one of them did you blood?

PC: How did blood get into the act?

LRH: I don't know how blood got into this.

PC: - Oh. (pause; laughs) Well, well, there's my brother
Bob. There's the incident when I hit him into a rock. I
mean, it was concrete. It wasn't I - that I threw a rock at
him, but I hit his head into a rock - into concrete.

LRH: Hm-hm, you did.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: And that bled?

PC: Yeah, that bled

LRH: That bled.

PC: That bled. Yes.

LRH: All right. Fine. How old was he?

PC: Uh-... he was older then. He was - oh, I should say
four and I was six. That's roughly.

LRH: All right. And what did you do?

PC: I made an airplane out of him. I was swinging him around ...

LRH: Yeah.

PC: ... me.

LRH: Mm.

PC: I was going around and held him by the feet, you see ...

LRH: Mm. Mm.

PC: and I was swinging him round, and I hit his head into
the concrete block.

LRH: Because you were dispersed.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Go on.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: And what happened there?

PC: Well, I injured him very seriously.

LRH: How seriously?

PC: Well, he's still got a knot on his head which he ...

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: assures me every time I see him that I did it. And I did.

LRH: All right. What did this do to him mentally, at the time?

PC: Hmm. Well, he - I think he was almost out cold.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: I was going to say it cold-cocked him.

LRH: Well, did it?

PC: Uh ... it stunned hm, it uh ... it did. Yes.

LRH: Mm. Mm. What did you think you had done at that time?

PC: Well, I thought I had injured him beyond repair, really.

LRH: Yeah.

PC: Like his head was pretty wide open.

LRH: And when was that?

PC: 1926, I would say roughly.

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: I'm not sure.

LRH: All right. When was it? Have you been told about this
or do you remember it? 

PC: Oh, no. I remember it.

LRH: You remember doing this.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right.

PC: ... was having a ball.

LRH: All right. And?

PC: And I slipped, actually. I mean, I got his head too
low, and it cracked up against the concrete.

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: And he - he was stunned. I don't remember whether Mother
patched him up or not.

LRH: All right. Well what might have appeared there?

PC: Well, the wound.

LRH: Hm-hm. Very good. And who didn't find out about it?

PC: I don I think Dad did.

LRH: Hm-hm. Who did you withhold that from?

PC: Well, from Dad.

LRH: Hm-hm. Anybody else fail to find out about it?

PC: The doctor. I don't think he was taken to the doctor.

LRH: Took him to the doctor?

PC: They didn't take him.

LRH: They didn't

PC: Mm-mm [no].

LRH: Doctor didn't find out about it.

PC: Mm-mm [no].

LRH: Well, who else didn't find out about it?

PC: (sighs) I'm not so sure Mother did. I think it was my
sister patched him up.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: I don't remember, but I don't think she did.

LRH: Was there a big secrecy involved in this?

PC: Well, just occlusions more than secrecy. I don 't remember.

LRH: Oh, no-no, no, no, no-no-no, no, no. Now, now, you
weren't carrying any banner signs around there ...

PC: Oh, of course not!

LRH: ... telling everybody "I busted my little brother's
head open."

PC: No no, no. No.

LRH: All right. Who did you keep this from?

PC: Oh, well, I kept that from the kids in school, and
teachers, and...

LRH: Hm-hm, And your father and your mother?

PC: Mother, and anybody that would have made me guilty.

LRH: All right.

PC: Like the towns people.

LRH: Very good. And do you actually remember, now,
suppressing that?

PC: Yeah. Sure you wouldn't - that's a now-I'm-supposed-to,
actually. I mean, you wouldn't go around saying you'd
bashed your brother's head in.

LRH: Yeah, but did your mama know about it?

PC: I don't think so.

LRH: How did she escape knowing about it?

PC: Oh, well, my sister was very effective in patching up wounds.

LRH: Mm-hm. Mm-mm. She helped you suppress this.

PC: Yeah. Well, actually my brother did too.

LRH: He helped you, too.

PC: Well, we protected each other from our parents.

LRH: All right. Very good. And did you get your brother to
agree not to tell? 

PC: No it was a tacit agreement.

LRH: I see. You didn't tell him not to tell.

PC: No

LRH: You just knew he wouldn't.

PC: Yeah. I just knew he wouldn't.

LRH: And your father didn't find out?

PC: No.

LRH: And your mother didn't ...

PC: I know my father didn't.

LRH: Your mother didn't find out?

PC: I'm not sure...

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: about my mother, whether it was Mother that patched
him. Mother would have protected us ...

LRH: Well, did your sister even know?

PC: (Sigh) Well ... (pause) I don't know. I don't know. It
was either Mother or my sister Agatha that patched him up.
And if it was Mother, my sister didn't know.

LRH: Hm?

PC: If it was Mother that patched him up, then my sister
didn't know.

LRH: Well, which is it that didn't know?

PC: I don't know. Must have been my sister because I think
my mother would have beat me up, and I don't remember
getting beaten up by my mother. I'm just assuming now though.

LRH: You got this figured out that way.

PC: Yeah!

LRH: Yeah.

PC: It's just logical.

LRH: But here's a head injury - here's a head injury that
remained a secret to your family.

PC: (pause) Hm.

LRH: Is that right?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right.

PC: That s not unusual.

LRH: All right. It's not unusual, but I'm just pointing out
that here is ...

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: ... an incident of that character. What else did you
do to bloody your brothers up? 

PC: (pause) Well, I've got the later incident with my brother 
Jake when we got into a fight.

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: I didn't bloody him up though. Oh, I guess I did. I
scratched him.

LRH: Oh, you guess you did it.

PC: Uh yes, I did.

LRH: Now come on. Did you or didn't you?

PC: Yes, I did.

LRH: All right. When was it?

PC: Oh, that was way later. I was about fifteen.

LRH: All right, honey. And what did that consist of?

PC: You mean, you want all of it? (chuckles)

LRH: Well ...

PC: (laughs) Well, I was supposed to fix has lunch, and I
didn't. So he tried to get me to fix his lunch, and I
fought back.

LRH: Yeah. And what did you do?

PC: Well I just uh ... See, I was littler than he was. And
I just fought like I wasn't.

LRH: All right. Okay.

PC: And I - he got so mad that he forgot I was littler, and
we had a fought like we were evenly matched.

LRH: Yeah. What did you do to him?

PC: Oh. just uh . . it was pretty dispersed, but I - I kicked
and clawed and bit ...

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: in any part of the body that I could - could get ahold of ...

LRH: All right. Good. And what did you do?

PC: Uh ... well, mostly scratched him and bit him.

LRH: All right.

PC: ... kicked - yeah, I kicked him, too.

LRH: Did you bloody him up?

PC: Don't - he got - I don't have a picture, but I assume if
I - if scratched, I would have bloodied him up. Sure.

LRH: Mmm.

PC: I mean I ...

LRH: Well, what do you know you've done there?

PC: Just that I fought tooth and toenail ...

LRH: All right.

PC: ... with all the strength I could conjure up at fifteen ...

LRH: That's good.

PC: ... with this body.

LRH: All right.

PC: Now I know.

LRH: All right. And who did you both keep that from?

PC: Mother.

LRH: All right. Anybody else?

PC: Dad.

LRH: All right. Okay. That's all.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Seems like seems like you didn't seem to enjoy the
confidence of your parents anywhere along the line.

PC: I didn't. (chuckles)

LRH: You didn't, huh?

PC: Oh, no.

LRH: What did you do? Has this lifetime been a career of
keeping things away from your mother?

PC: Mm-mm. Mostly Dad.

LRH: Mostly Dad.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Mother? Keeping things from Mother?

PC: Well, yeah. There would be some type things I'd keep
from Mother, and there'd be other type.

LRH: Sex.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Sex you'd keep from Mother.

PC: Yeah. I'd keep from Mother.

LRH: That's good.

PC: And anything that would provoke my dad's temper, I
would keep from Dad. And fighting would provoke his temper,
you see?

LRH: Mm-hm. All right. He'd get mad, in other words.

PC: Oh, he'd get... Yeah.

LRH: He'd get furious.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. So keeping things from Dad? That's bing, bing.

Now, what type of thing would you keep from Dad?

PC: Well, I'd keep breakage...

LRH: Yeah.

PC: ... getting unto trouble with uh ...

LRH: Good.

PC: ... the school authorities.

LRH: All right.

PC: And beating up the guy who tried to beat us up for
stealing his watermelons.

LRH: Right.

PC: These things.

LRH: Go on.

PC: Just if I would get into trouble ...

LRH: All right.

PC: ... I would keep it from Dad.

LRH: Any trouble ...

PC: Yeah.

LRH: ... would be kept from Dad.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: So he's the symbol of no - communication if in trouble.

PC: (chuckles) Yeah.

LRH: Is that right?

PC: Well, he's more than that. He wouldn't let us talk to
him, actually, either.

LRH: He said, no, huh?

PC: He just said "Don't talk! Just talk when you 're spoken to."

LRH: Oh, I see. All right.

PC: And we hat that one and then the other one, we don't
talk if we got into trouble, because why invite more trouble?

LRH: All right. How did you trap your father?

PC: Oh! Gee! I did that with ARC.

LRH: All right. How did you do that?

PC: Just uh ... (sighs) I ...

LRH: Go on.

PC: Well, I just wouldn't let him keep this game going. I
moved in, got close to him.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: Got him off of this German "I am the father and you are
the child, so therefore you must never speak to me unless
you're spoken to."

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: I just would speak to him.

LRH: Mm.

PC: I would demonstrate affection.

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: And it worked.

LRH: All right. What didn't he find out about this?

PC: Hmm. (sighs) Well, mostly what he didn't find out was
that he didn't have a prayer with ... with this - with our
family after he got off of that one that he used to control us.

LRH: All right. And what didn't he have a prayer with, how,
exactly?

PC: Well, he didn't have a prayer with me or the rest of
the family, I think.

LRH: Good. Now how did you trap him, specifically and exactly?

PC: Well, I don't remember exactly when it was, but I know
there was the first time when I kissed him.

LRH: I see.

PC: You know?

LRH: All right. Very, very good. When was that?

PC: Uh ...

LRH: That's it.

PC: Well, that was, I would should say 1938. But, actually,
what I'd - happened is I stumbled onto this earlier incident
of violence.

LRH: Of what?

PC: Of violence with him ...

LRH: Yeah?

PC: which was not an answer to our question. (laughs)

LRH: I didn't get what this earlier incident was of ...

PC: Well, I've got an incident when I was sixteen when I
stopped him from beating Mother.

LRH: Oh, I see.

PC: And it got into a violent - violent incident rather than ...

LRH: I see.

PC: an incident of affection.

LRH: Oh, all right. That's perfectly all right.

PC: Mm.

LRH: Nobody is worrying about this.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Now, you trapped him with a kiss. Is that right?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right.

PC: That's - was affection there that actually trapped him.

LRH: An affection. Did you feel the affection?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Very good. Now, something wrong with
affection here, honey.

PC: Well ...

LRH: What is this all about?

PC: Well, you don't demonstrate affection to a German father!

LRH: I know, but what about affection in general?

PC: Well, youuuuuuu - well, actually, it's a trap.

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: It's - that traps men.

LRH: Affection is a trap.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Is that - that's the way it equates.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: That's the way it equates.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Very good.

All right, (PC chuckles) who doesn't know about this?

PC: Charlie doesn't know this.

LRH: Alright How about Jimmy?

PC: Well, yeah, Jimmy doesn't know about this. Actually,
this is what goes on with me with the students here, too.

LRH: All right

PC: I want to get close to them, but I already know it's a
trap ...

LRH: Yeah, go on. Go on.

PC: to be affectionate. Go on what? Who else doesn't know?

LRH: Tell me. Go on. Who doesn't know about this?

PC: Oh!

LRH: Just get the roster out here.

PC: Well, my dad didn't know it.

LRH: All right.

PC: My brothers.

LRH: That-a-girl.

PC: My ...

LRH: That-a-girl.

PC: (pause) Any - I - I've got it just it's in a trap - it's a
trap if you - if you have affection for a man.

LRH: I see.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: I see. All right. And who doesn't find out about this?

PC: (sighs) Well, none of the - none of the men I've ever known.

LRH: Just the lot.

PC: Yeah!

LRH: All right. Very good. Very good. That's all I was
trying to check into.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: How about the little kids that you were around?

PC: Well, it's all right to feel affection for kids.

LRH: Well, come on. How early did this start?

PC: Well, it started early - real early with - me with my
father. But like it was all right for me to feel ...

LRH: There we are. There we are. The tick tick. Started
very early with you or your father.

PC: With my father.

LRH: Did you - how old were you? Four, two, three, what?
Four? Two? One? One? 

PC: Probably.

LRH: But did you know at that time that it was a ...

PC: No.

LRH: ... action?

Well, when did you overtly use this to betray him?

PC: Well that time when I was eight - eighteen.

LRH: All right. And what happened there exactly? Now, we
got onto that a moment ago and got off of it.

PC: Well, just I intended to get him off of this other one
he had on. You know, where he's totally individuated. So I
demonstrated the affection for him ...

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: and then ... hmm ... like he was trapped and I was
trapped, both, on this one.

LRH: Hm-hm. Is that so?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. What didn't appear there?

PC: Hmm. (long pause) This one flipped ... I - I have
trouble with it because I don't ever know whether it's
what's supposed to. You know, like a thing that didn't
appear there was just actually a warning or a - of things to
come.

LRH: All right. All right. Very good. What things to come?

PC: Well, like he was vulnerable then. Mother used this one
on him particularly.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: She would withdraw affection from him.

LRH: All right. Very good. And who didn't find out about it?

PC: Well, actually I didn't find out about it at that
point. I didn't realize that's what I was doing.

LRH: All right. When did you decide this was what you were doing?

PC: Well just - I didn't really connect it up until now.

LRH: Oh, all right. Very good. Very good.

PC: That - that this is part of the thing that goes on with me.

LRH: All right.

PC: That used to bug me.

LRH: All right. This seems real to you.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: I haven't forced any cognition's on you, have I?

PC: No no. of course not. See, this - I have got a late
incident. It happened here on course - is the lost incident.

LRH: Yeah? Yeah. Well, there's a whole series of these incidents.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: And they consist of "trapped with affection."

PC: Mmm.

LRH: Trapped with affection.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: All right. All right. Very good. Okay.

Now, how far back does this go?

PC: Well, it doesn't go - just to trap with affection doesn't
go. I just wouldn't do it. I never would do that, I don't
think. (long pause) I don't remember any earlier incidents.
I mean, I would try not to.

LRH: Try not to trap with affection.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: And what does that do? What's the result of that?

PC: You're lonely.

LRH: Oh, I see. So if you use affection, you trap?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: And if you don't use affection, you don't trap?

PC: Mmm.

LRH: I see. All right, honey. All right. And that's very
interesting. When is the first time you really trapped a
man that way? Or a boy?

PC: Oh, wait a minute. I do have some incidents on this.
Actually, I've got an incident with a priest.

LRH: Hm?

PC: (laughs) With a priest ...

LRH: Oh, yeah.

PC: this life. Yeah. Father O'Sullivan. That's what
happened there; it just ...

LRH: All right. What life was that?

PC: This life.

LRH: This life?

PC: Yeah. Huh.

LRH: You were a ...

PC: ...was a Catholic this life you see.

LRH: Oh, yeah; All right.

PC: And I was uh - oh, fifteen, sixteen, when Father
O'Sullivan was our parish priest.

LRH: All right. Good. And what happened?

PC: Well, it was just I got - just got real - close to him.

LRH: Good.

PC: Got to liking him.

LRH: Good.

PC: And he - it was a real close, affectionate situation.
Nothing sexual.

LRH: I know, but uh ...

PC: It was affec - there was a lot of affection ...

LRH: All right.

PC: ... there for - for one - me for him and him for me.

LRH: Okay. Now, exactly what occurred. Something must have
occurred.

PC: Well, yeah. l was actually ... This is - this is
interesting in view of the fact I said I'm stupid. I was
the outstanding student in the catechism class.

LRH: Ah! Very good.

PC: And got just well, just uh, by being outstanding and
smart in catechism, I attracted his attention.

LRH: All right. Good.

PC: And just ... I've got a real pull for the affection for him.

LRH: Hm-hm. Go on.

PC: Well, this one was pretty disastrous, because you don't
really get that close to a priest.

LRH: Yeah, all right.

PC: It violates the ...

LRH: All right.

PC: (laughs) ... all that's holy in the "Catholic church," 
you see?

LRH: Right.

PC: But that's all that happened. There wasn't any ...

LRH: Well now, what was disastrous about it? (brief pause)
That's it.

PC: Well, for one thing, l don't think he's any longer a priest.

LRH: Oh, really?

PC: Don't think so.

LRH: What did you do?

PC: Well, I don't think I did ... I think I just contributed 
to this one.

LRH: Yeah, but what happened? There's a ...

PC: Just - just that I - I got closer to a priest than a 
girl ...

LRH: All right.

PC: ... is supposed to get to a priest.

LRH: And then what happened?

PC: Then he left town.

LRH: Why did he leave town?

PC: I don't know but I do know that he was moved to an
Indian mission, which is a reduction in status for a priest.

LRH: All right. Well, what occurred? What happened there?
You got a - you're leaving me with blank.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: All right. You're very bright in class, and you get
next to this priest, and then he leaves town.

PC: Well, there - actually, there wasn't anything else did happen.

LRH: Well, what did you do that was an overt?

PC: Just got that close to him.

LRH: And that what?

PC: Just to form that much of a personal relationship with him.

LRH: Yeah.

PC: To be on that uh ... just on the same basis with him
rather than as a priest - girl in the parish.

LRH: Good. Bing-bing. Now what ... There's something there, see?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: There's something there. There's something more there
than just that.

PC: There is?

LRH: What is it?

PC: Well, there's - there was an incident there when uh ...

LRH: Yeah, that's what we want. What is it?

PC: I went into a game with him that you don't - you
shouldn't play with a priest. Like I... got mad at him 
and told him I was never going to speak to him again. 
And then he got me to speak to him again. I was walking 
down the street one day and I saw him, and I just had 
my head ... I wasn't going to speak to him.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And as he passed me, he put his face into my face and
said, "Hello." 

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: And we got back into communication again.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: But there really... That's about all ...

LRH: Nothing else happened?

PC: No.

LRH: Was there anything happened there? Was there anything
happened with that priest? 

PC: Mm-mm. That's an - that's enough.

LRH: Was this kind of charged?

PC: Well, that's enough!

LRH: What's enough?

PC: Well, to get that close to a priest! You're not supposed 
to get close to a priest. Now - uh?

LRH: What did you do to the man?

PC: I don't know.

LRH: Would this ruin him in some way? What's the overt
here? Showing affection? 

PC: Well, it's - it's knocking him off his priest - priestliness. 
I mean, he was a man instead of a priest.

LRH: All right. All right. But what happened here, exactly?
Did you set out to plan to do this? 

PC: No.

LRH: Did you know this was bad?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: You did know this was bad?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Well, you went ahead and did it, though.

PC: Mm.

LRH: Oh, you knew it was bad ...

PC: Mm.

LRH: ... and you went head and did it.

PC: Well sure.

LRH: All right. Who didn't find out about it?

PC: Oh, well, hell, my mother didn't find out about that,
or any of the church people.

LRH: All right. Very good.

PC: Besides that, if they'd have found out about it, they'd 
have said I was uh ... trying to sleep with him, which I 
wasn't, I don't think.

LRH: Hm-hm. All right. All right. Okay. And what appeared
there then?

PC: Well, a man instead of a priest!

LRH: Oh, all right. All right. And who didn't find out about 
that?

PC: Well, he didn't.

LRH: All right. Very good. Now, when was this exactly?

PC: In '36. I was sixteen, I think.

LRH: Over what period of time was it? How many weeks? months? 
days?

PC: Uh ... was that - that summer when I was being prepared
for confirmation.

LRH: Go on.

PC: Uh ... was in the summertime - was in summer school. I
was being prepared for confirmation, to it was over a
period of weeks.

LRH: Over a period of weeks.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Very good. And what didn't appear there?

PC: Hm. I'm hung up on a - occurrence there, too.

LRH: What is the occurrence?

PC: Well, he flipped me one time when he was testing us
finally for our uh ... whether we were fit to be
confirmed. And he tested all the other students on uh ...
the catc - the catechism.

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: But he asked me questions out of the Bible. That was a
betrayal, because I didn't know anything about the Bible.

LRH: Oh, I see. All right. Good enough. And who didn't find
out about it? 

PC: What...

LRH: Who didn't get any answers? (LRH: and PC laugh)

PC: He didn't. He didn't. I hit a blank.

LRH: All right. You hit a blank.

PC: Ah.

LRH: That's quite interesting. Before that, you were
bright. Is that what you are saying? 

PC: Yeah.

LRH: And after that you were stupid.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. How do you account for this?

PC: Why, that I was just - I was going to ... cognite (laughs) 
on this. I was wondering if this had any connection with ...

LRH: Well, is that correct?

PC: Well yeah. It - just after that I had . .

LRH: Am I rushing your cognition?

PC: Yeah. You are. (laughs)

LRH: All right.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Good enough.

PC: Cause it was - just that feeling there of stupidity.

LRH: You ever spot this before?

PC: No not really.

LRH: All right.

PC: But I - there's something else there.

LRH: Yeah. what is there?

PC: Well, a feel there that I betrayed hm.

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: And...

LRH: Did you?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: How?

PC: I was supposed to be smart. I was supposed to know about
the Bible.

LRH: Oh, I see. You were supposed to know ...

PC: Mmm.

LRH: ... about the Bible.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: All right. And what happened?

PC: I didn't.

LRH: Uh-huh.

PC: I didn't ever...

LRH: And who didn't find out about it?

PC: Well, he did - he didn't find out it soon enough to not
ask me the questions.

LRH: I see. Well, when did this examination - this
examination take place, in front of witnesses?

PC: Oh, yeah. Up in front of the other students.

LRH: Oh, I see. All right. And that was a source of what 
to you?

PC: Well, a source of failure on him, like I was supposed 
to ...

TBD

LRH: What were you trying to cover up in front of these students?

PC: (Pause) Huh?

LRH: That area must be loaded with missed withholds.

PC: Well, I did try to cover up that he - that I was his favorite.

LRH: Yeah. All right. What else didn't they find out there?

PC: (pause) Well, you know, what I have a feel of here is
that they failed to find out, was that I didn't consider
myself smart because I knew catechism. Catechism is a cinch.

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: I mean, there's - any knucklehead could learn about catechism.

LRH: All right. And they didn't find out about that?

PC: Mmm.

LRH: All right. Very good. Now, did you to anything to this priest?

PC: Well I sure let him down that day.

LRH: All right. Very good. This made him feel foolish?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Hm-hm. Did he look confused?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: All right. So what did you do there?

PC: Mm. I was noticing something else there, too.

LRH: What?

PC: Well, he expected ... this has happened a lot in my
life. He expected me to be smarter than I was. I didn't
come through, you know?

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: I've got an incident like that on you.

LRH: Yeah, yeah. All right.

PC: In '55.

LRH: All right.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Okay. And your brightness failed to appear, is that right?

PC: Yeah! It sure did, man!

LRH: All right. Very good.

PC: That's - that's right. It ...

LRH: Yeah.

PC: Let me down boy. It didn't appear.

LRH: (chuckles) All right. Very good. And who hasn't found
out - who's been in the dark about this?

PC: You.

LRH: All right.

PC: It's failing to appear here, too, you know - (laughs) my
brightness. Yeah.

LRH: All right. Okay. All right. Very good. All right,
then, what's the missed withhold? 

PC: I ain't as bright as people think I am, is actually the 
missed withhold.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: I'm not.

LRH: And well, what is that the thing that everybody misses on you?

PC: Mmm.

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: Mother and all.

LRH: Everybody misses this.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: One and all.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Let's go back to this incident in the cornfield.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Is that a piece of it?

PC: Uh.

LRH: Is that part of the same picture?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Yeah? Well, how is it part of the same picture?

PC: Well, my brightness didn't appear there, because if it
had have, I would have known that Mother - this was not one
of Mothers acceptability's. She - that she - just, sex was
something she just couldn't confront.

LRH: All right.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Okay. Now, is there any earlier incident
when somebody should have known this?

PC: (pause) No. That I - not that I remember.

LRH: All right. I don't get anything clicking on the meter.

PC: Oh, good. (sighs)

LRH: All right. Now, there seems to be, though, a whole
chain of incidents here.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Something on this order.

PC: Yeah. There is.

LRH: Just describe this circumstance to me here. Just what
we've been finding out and plumbing into here, and so forth.

PC: Well what I've got straight is that any darn fool can
learn anything that they have - you know, that's easy to learn.

LRH: Yeah.

PC: But uh, if it's hard, I'm not bright. I can't learn
anything hard.

LRH: All right. Good. Click-click. There it is.

PC: Yeah. Sure, I mean, Scientology auditing is hard.

LRH: All right.

PC: Like, I can sit town and get a preclear to talk to me.

LRH: All right.

PC: But I can't do a heck of a lot with Class III stuff.

LRH: All right.

PC: You know?

LRH: Click-click.

PC: (sniffs) Mmm.

LRH: Hm-hm. Well, how does this all add up?

PC: (sighs; pause) Well, it adds up to "I am not acceptable
to people as soon as they find out I'm not bright." That's
how it adds up.

LRH: Now, what proved this to you when you were four or six
or something like that? What...

PC: Well, because Mother told me I was no - not acceptable to her.

LRH: When did she say this?

PC: When I was four.

LRH: Hm hm. What did you do?

PC: I ...

LRH: What had you done?

PC: You mean because she said that?

LRH: Mmm.

PC: Well, I had communicated to her about an experience
that I thought she - you know, that ...[gap in recording]

LRH: Is there another sexual incident when you were - that.
Bing, bang. What's that? 

PC: Well, did - I've always had a - a horror that one day I 
was going to get something unoccluded and find that my father 
had sexually ...

LRH: All right.

PC: But I uh ... I have no recall on this.

LRH: All right. Very good. We got the same tick-tick on
your father here a while ago.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: Now, what is this? Did something happen with your father?

PC: Mm.

LRH: Was there some sexual incident with your father?

PC: No, except that he was capable of it.

LRH: Bing. Bang. Is there a sexual incident with your father?

PC: Before? No

LRH: Well, at any time.

PC: No. The only thing that I have on my father is that one
time when I was taking a bath I didn't pull the curtains,
and he uh ... watched me through the windows when I was
naked.

LRH: All right.

PC: That's all he did.

LRH: When was that?

PC: Oh, I was eighteen - nine - seventeen or eighteen then - 
by then.

LRH: All right. All right. Good.

PC: And then, of course, the other thing I have is I've
always been afraid of - my father was going to sexually
molest me, ever since I was a child I was afraid ...

LRH: Thought what?

PC: Huh?

LRH: Ever since you were what?

PC: A child.

LRH: Yeah. You always were afraid of that.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Well, who told you this.

PC: Well, Mother told me.

LRH: What did she tell you?

PC: Well, she told me that he wasn't uh ... safe to be
around. Girls weren't safe to be around hm.

LRH: Oh, I see. And who didn't find out about her telling you?

PC: Dad.

LRH: All right. Who else didn't find out about it? Anybody else?

PC: I doubt it. She used to scream this one to the high
housetops whenever she was um ...

LRH: And what did she used to scream to the high housetop?

PC: That he was a monster and a beast and all this type of
thing. I ...

LRH: Is that so?

PC: Mm.

LRH: All right.

PC: My mother never did uh ... uh ...

LRH: All right. Did anything of this character ever happen?

PC: Did - with Dad, you mean?

LRH: Hm-mm.

PC: Well, not that I know of. I've heard of incidences
where he did. My mother...

Actually, I'm sure it was true, but I didn't know about it
until later.

LRH: What was true?

PC: Well, that he had molested my uh ... aunt when she was nine.

LRH: All right.

PC: But uh this was way before my time.

LRH: Mmm.

PC: And I didn't find out about that till I was sixteen.

LRH: All right. Is any of this an overt against your father?

PC: (sighs) Well, now it is because I have a better
understanding what was going on with him. Now, let's see,
was it at the time? It seems like it was, some feel there
but not any...

LRH: Mm, all right. Well, what's this four year old
incident we're looking for? 

PC: Umm.

LRH: Tick-tick. What is it? Tick-tick what is it? Come on.
There it is.

PC: Yeah. Well, this one's been plaguing me ever since '50,
and I don't know what it is.

LRH: Oh, you've had something plaguing you since '50.

PC: Yeah. This turns up quite often.

LRH: What?

PC: Just that there - I get four and six messed up.

LRH: Is that the only thing about it that plagues you?

PC: No it just uh ... I feel like something did happen,
but I don't know what it is.

LRH: All right. All right. Very good. All right. Now, just
think about this for a moment.

What happened to you when you were four? That's it.

PC: Well, what I thought of is I moved from North Dakota to
Park City, but that - that happened to me, but ...

LRH: Mm-mm.

PC: ... that doesn't seem very significant.

LRH: All right. What did you do? What did you do when you
were four? That's it Tickety-tick.

PC: Now I have a stuck picture of the granary - when I was
sitting in the granary.

LRH: Granary.

PC: Mm. But I don't know what I did.

LRH: What granary?

PC: Uh - this I think, is in Park City. I think

LRH: All right. Well, who hasn't found out about it?

PC: Most auditors

LRH: All right. Who else hasn't found out about it? -

PC: Well, Mother did ... I don't think Mother found out 
about it.

LRH: All right. Who else hasn't fount out about this
four-year-old incident? 

PC: (sighs) Well, I haven't found out about it.

LRH: All right. Very good. How long haven't you found out about it?

PC: Sheesh, ever since 1950, when it got dredged up somehow
in engram running.

LRH: 1950.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: Very good. Now, who missed that - withhold in 1950?

PC: Mildred.

LRH: Hm?

PC: Mildred. My first - one of my first auditors.

LRH: All right. And what did she miss? Tick-tick.

PC: Hm. Just missed that I feel there is something there
and I don't know what it is.

LRH: All right. Did you tell her there was something there?

PC: Well, it was more like she was making - you know, having
me go earlier and earlier, and I would - I bumped into it.

LRH: And what did you bump into?

PC: Just uh ... uh ... more of a - an impression that
something happened.

LRH: What's the impression? What do you mean, impression?

PC: Four. All I get is - just a picture flashes that I'm on
this granary - I was sitting in the grainary and I'm sure I
had something that I had stolen, but I don't know what it is.

And I'm sure it was something that belonged to the neighbor
gal, and I don't - I - I'm sure I was hiding.

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: But that's all I can get on it.

LRH: All right. Is that what you bumped into when you were in 1950?

PC: Uh . . the impression - it didn't really ...

LRH: Oh, you know more about it now than ...

PC: Yeah

LRH: ... you did in '50.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: All right. Has this sort of haunted you, this little
four-year-old period here? 

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Well, who's missed it as a withhold?

PC: Well Mildred missed it.

LRH: Who else?

PC: Paul.

LRH: Good. Who else?

PC: Actually, Donna is the one that uh ... dredged it up.
I got more on it with her than any other auditor.

LRH: Oh, people have been looking for this?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: I see. Good. And who's missed it?

PC: Um ... Juanita.

LRH: Good. Who else has missed it?

PC: (sighs; pause) Hm. Uh, I was looking at the '55
auditors. Hazel Hart.

LRH: All right. Good. Who else has missed it?

PC: Actually, Dick missed it here on uh... course.

LRH: All right.

PC: Yeah. He was ...

LRH: Good. Good.

PC: ... poking around in that area.

LRH: All right. Who else has missed it.

PC: That's about all. The one I'm looking at here is just a
long - the - all these auditors poking around trying to uncover
this one and never being able to ...

LRH: Hm-hm.

PC: ... get it.

LRH: Did you think there was anything there originally?

PC: Uh . . not uh ... No, not really.

LRH: You didn't think there was anything ...

PC: No

LRH: ... there originally.

PC: Yeah. It's just that uh ...

LRH: Just a ...

PC: ... there should be something when I - that I should
have a time track when I'm four years old, shouldn't I?
(laughs)

LRH: I see. All right. All right. Is it because the time
track is missing there? 

PC: That's partially it. The other one is that I have got the 
confusion there. I've always had the six-year-old picture ...

LRH: Mmm.

PC: ... and I always got it confused: it's now, it's six;
it's four, it's six ...

LRH: Mm-hm. And u this what they usually take off on?

PC: Mmm.

LRH: And so forth. And you usually bring this up.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: Is that right?

PC: Mmm.

LRH: Now, how do you always bring this up?

PC: (sighs) Because they ask me questions on it, and I
never know what to do with it. I mean you - how am I supposed
to answer up to something I don't remember?

LRH: All right. But how come this turns up in the first place?

PC: Because my attention just goes that way. I go bloomp on
this picture, and then I go four, six. There must some - 
been something happened at four.

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: I go figuring on it.

LRH: Hm-mm. Well, who basically is missing this withhold?

PC: (sighs) Well, I am, basically.

LRH: All right.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Fine. Is there anything there that's withheld?

PC: Just ...

LRH: Is there anything happened when you were four?

PC: I don't know. You see, th-there must - have been
something happened, but I don't know.

LRH: Well, good. Well, why do you want auditors to look there?

PC: I don't, particularly.

LRH: Look. Look-a-here. We're going over this ground.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: How come we're sitting there?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: That's fascinating ...

PC: Yeah!

LRH: ... isn't it? (pause) now, is there something on
either side of this that you want an auditor to avoid? I'm
not asking you a dirty question.

PC: Mm, I don 't mind you asking.

LRH: But is there something there you'd like to
be - something there that you want an avoidance on? There
something there you're trying to avoid? Is there something
there you're trying to get auditors to avoid?

PC: No.

LRH: Nope. That's right. This is clean.

PC: Hm-mm.

LRH: See, I've got to ask these questions to straighten it out.

PC: Hm-mm.

LRH: All right. Did anything happen when you were four? I
don't find anything on - the meter.

PC: (exhales) Well, that's fine with me.

LRH: Well, who insisted there was something at four? I just
asked you if there was something at four. I haven't
insisted there's anything there. But who, amongst your
auditors, insisted there was something there?

PC: (sighs; pause) Well... (pause) Uh ... I don 't know
what they ...

LRH: There is something right there.

PC: Yeah, well, I'm not sure that they insisted; just like
it come up and they would poke.

LRH: They'd what?

PC: They'd poke on - in that area to see if we could open up
the track.

LRH: Yeah.

PC: You know? Uh I don't think they insisted on it,
however: Like I would do the same thing I did tonight: it's
six, it's four, it's six, it's four.

LRH: Well what do you do? Cut your throat on the subject of
sex when you were about four - six by telling on your
brother? Is there some regret involved in this?

PC: Well, sure.

LRH: Yeah, what's the regret?

PC: (pause) Well ... (long pause; sighs) Actually: the
most regret I have on this is Mother.

Because, I mean, l didn't uh... cut my brothers throat on
this one. I mean, Mother beat him up, but then that isn't
particularly disastrous. You know?

LRH: Well, what's disastrous there?

PC: That my mother had uh well, had her ideas of a how a
little girl should behave, shook.

LRH: Mmm.

PC: I hadn't intended that.

LRH: Mmm. Do something to your mother?

PC: Well sure I just I did - I indulged in sex play that was
totally something she didn't want me to do Yeah, she's got
something like "you're ruined if you do." You know? 

LRH: Mm-mm.

PC: 'Course, I have too.

LRH: Mm-mm.

PC: Yeah. And like I-I didn't ever intend for her to get
this one shook up.

LRH: Get what?

PC: Get this idea of hers shook up

LRH: Mm-mm. Well did she talk to you about the commercial
value of all this? 

PC: That was later.

LRH: Oh, yeah. But at that time there was something about this.

PC: Yeah I didn't actually know she was - was sitting that
strongly on... on it.

LRH: I see. All right. Now, let's skip what you don't know.
Let's take a look at what you know in that period. (PC
sighs) Now, that do you know in that period?

PC: What period?

LRH: Anytime. Four, six, somewhere around in that lifetime
area, in that life area.

PC: Well, I know that incident.

LRH: All right.

PC: l know the incident when I was four when I hit my - that
little girl. I was four then.

LRH: When you were four ...

PC: Hm.

LRH: ... you were what?

PC: I hit that little girl. I know about that.

LRH: You know about that.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Is that an overt?

PC: Well, sure.

LRH: All right. How long have you known about that?

PC: Well I've always known that one.

LRH: All right. Good And what other incident do you know in
four-six period? 

PC: (pause) Oh, wait a minute. I-I-I know why auditors would 
go off on this one, is because I still have that uh ... one 
there that is the uh-... divided thing where I was sitting in 
the hall. I don't - I can't account for that.

LRH: What hall?

PC: Yeah, it's a side porch.

LRH: Yeah, what about the side porch? You mean you got - had
a - what about this picture? You mean you've got a picture
there ...

PC: Mm.

LRH: ... and auditors keep hitting it?

PC: Yeah. It turns - it uh, it just automatically comes up
when I think about that uh ...

LRH: I see. At four you get a picture of the side porch.

PC: Yeah. And so on ...

LRH: Six and four.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: Ohhh. Is it...

PC: Like...

LRH: ... is it this lifetime?

PC: Hm ?

LRH: Is the picture anything to do with this lifetime?

PC: I can't be sure about that.

LRH: Mm-mm. So you got a picture.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: Interesting. How many other pictures you got? (pause)
Bang! What's that? 

PC: Well, I bumped into that one where I saw that man sitting 
on the - in the rocking chair He was a monster.

LRH: Hm?

PC: (laughs) Oh, I saw this monster sitting in the rocking
chair, and ... But this actually is an actual ... I
don't know whether I slapped a picture over it or there was
actually a man - man sitting there. But he was there and I
called my sister and she came out, and he wasn't. He'd
disappeared out of the chair.

LRH: Yeah...

PC: I got that picture.

LRH: All right. All right. Okay. All right. Now, what don't
we know about this period? 

PC: (sighs) Mmmmmmmm.

LRH: What is unknown about this period?

PC: Well, everything - my whole chronological events of my
life in that period is unknown to me.

LRH: All right. Very good. And who been missing all these?

PC: Oh, well, all the auditors missed that.

LRH: Well, good. What's the withholds in this area? What
are the real withholds in this area? 

PC: (Pause) Well, my whole ... my life is a withhold there. 
What did I do? What was I like? You know?

LRH: Hmm. All right. And who's been missing it?

PC: Mostly me.

LRH: All right.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Very good. Very good. And any other data you'd like to
tell me about concerning that right now? All right. We got
a little halt - little click, little click. What's that? What
are you going over? Bing. Bing. What are you going over there?

PC: Well mostly, I've - I'm ... come into present time and
noticing it was getting late is all.

LRH: All right. Good. Is that what you're noticing?

PC: Hmm..

LRH: All right. Very good. Now, what about sleeping with a
man to trap him? 

PC: Jimmy is the only one I'd - or it would have been Charlie.

LRH: Hm?

PC: Yeah, Jimmy and Charlie. No, this isn't true. I had
some promiscuity ...

LRH: Hm?

PC: I had some promiscuity occurred in between Jimmy and
Charlie. But I wasn't intending to entrap.

LRH: All right. Very good. All right. Just let me ask you
that question now.

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right. Let's find out what this is - what the
reaction we get on this.

PC: Hmm.

LRH: All right. What about sleeping with a man to trap him?
Just seems peculiarly uncharged now.

PC: Mmm. This feels uncharged.

LRH: Well, do you suddenly feel better about it?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Did you feel worse about it than you do feel?

PC: Well, I did during the break - felt worse - worse ...

LRH: Mm-hm.

PC: than I did. Uh ... I feel all right about it now.

LRH: Mm-mm. Do you think anything has occurred here, then?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: What?

PC: Well I feel more uh-uh ... well, actually, less
frantic about uh ... the whole thing, and notice a lot of
connections between my present behavior and uh ... past
stuff.

LRH: Hm, hm.

PC: You know?

LRH: Hmm.

PC: Like it's what's going on with me with this chronic PTP
is just the story of my life.

LRH: All right, honey.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Nothing too new in this then.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: All right, honey. Now, we got a null on this "What" 
question.

PC: Oh. Good-o.

LRH: And so if it's all right with you, why, I'd like to
end that Prepcheckng and bring us down the line.

PC: Mm.

LRH: Okay?

PC: That's fine. Fine.

LRH: All right? All right? Okay. Anything you care to say
or ask before I end that Prepchecking?

PC: No just ...

LRH: All right.

PC: ... thank you.

LRH: All right. All right. Here we go. Okay. Let's walk
into these end rudiments, huh? 

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right. Have you told me any half-truth? Have you
told me any half-truth? Untruth? - All right. Come up to
present time.

PC: Mm. Okay.

LRH: All right. (PC sighs) See if we get this thing a
little bit better here.

PC: Mm.

LRH: Have you told me any half-truth? Thank you. Untruth?

PC: Mm.

LRH: All right. Said something only to impress me? Oh, what
have you said only to impress me?

PC: Well, I always get the impression when I'm sitting here
talking that I am impressing.

LRH: All right.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. You doing it on purpose?

PC: No.

LRH: All right. Have you done it on purpose just for me?

PC: No.

LRH: All right. All right. have you said something only to
impress me?

PC: No.

LRH: All right. Not anything particularly?

PC: Mm-mm.

LRH: All right. Let me clear that again.

PC: Mm.

LRH: Have you said something only to impress me? That's all
right. Have you tried to damage anyone in this session?
(short pause) Tried to damage anyone in this ... Boy, you
sure stop on damage, don't you?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: The damage kid, huh?

PC: Yeah. (LRH: and PC chuckle)

LRH: All right. Okay. Now listen to me: Have you tried to
damage anyone in this session? 

PC: No.

LRH: That's so right. All right. Have you deliberately
tried to influence the E-Meter? 

PC: No.

LRH: All right. That's in this session?

PC: Mmm.

LRH: All right. In this session have you deliberately tried
to influence the E-Meter? 

PC: No.

LRH: All right. The subject of E-Meter seems a little rough
with you here.

PC: Yeah, I got a lot of uh ...

LRH: What's the matter?

PC: ... you, never can tell what the meter is reading on.
You know?

LRH: Don't auditors tell you?

PC: Oh Well, yeah, they tell me, but they say "Well, I - have
I missed a withhold and - and they say - I say, they say "Well,
it's clicking" and then I-it's unreal to me that uh ... I... 
I... because I don't feel like I've failed to tell an auditor 
something. Then I dig, and it does clean up.

LRH: Mmm. Mmm. What do you answer them for?

PC: What do you mean?

LRH: Just what do you answer them for?

PC: Well, they say "Have I missed a withhold on you?" and
I say no.

LRH: They actually missed at talking to the meter.

PC: Is that what goes on?

LRH: Well, sure. And you say - they say "Have I missed a
withhold on you?" you see, and you say no. And they say
"Oh, yes, you have" and so forth. - What are you talking
for? 

PC: Ha!

LRH: They're just rudiments.

PC: Oh!

LRH: You don't have to say anything.

PC: Well then I feel like if I don't do that, then I end up
with "Have you ..." It will read when it says "Have you
failed to answer a question or a command?" (laughing) 

LRH: All right. That's going to be and be caught three ways 
from the middle.

PC: Yeah. (LRH: and PC laugh) You're trapped any way you do it.

LRH: All right, honey. Well, you go ahead and answer it or
not, as you please. (laughs) 

PC: Okay.

LRH: Okay. All right. Have you failed to answer any
question or command I've given you in this session? That's
clean. Thank you. You see, you didn't get a chance to
answer me, did you?

PC: Mmm. .

LRH: All right. In this session, have I missed a withhold
on you? There's a tiny, latent slowdown. Is there a little
bit of something that ...

PC: Just uh ...

LRH: That's it.

PC: I'm sure if I dredged, I probably could find a lot of
things, but like I - you haven't missed anything.

LRH: All right. But in this session ...

PC: Yeah.

LRH: ... in this session ...

PC: Yeah.

LRH: ... what we have done ...

PC: Yeah.

LRH: ... have I missed a withhold on you?

PC: No.

LRH: All right. I got a tick. I got a little latent tick here.

PC: Yeah. Well, I'm afraid if I take a look that I'm going
to find something. Then it's going to be missed.

LRH: Go ahead and take a look.

PC: Okay.

LRH: I'm running this session. You relax!

PC: (laughs) Yeah. Okay.

LRH: (chuckles) All right.

PC: Let's see. (pause) No. Nothing.

LRH: All right. All right, let me check that again. In this
session, have I missed a withhold on you? I got a click.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: That's it. That's it. That's it. Right there.

PC: Well just uh ... see, this didn't turn up in this session.

LRH: Hm?

PC: It didn't turn up in this session, but it's - it's here now.

LRH: What is it?

PC: That's what I don't understand.

LRH: All right. Well, all right.

PC: Uh well, like I've got some discreditable habits that I
don't particularly like uh ... to talk about.

LRH: All right. All right.

PC: You know?

LRH: All right. Have I failed to find out about those?

PC: Yeah.

LRH: All right. Good. Good. All right. In this session have
I missed a withhold on you? Well, it's just a latent tick
now. - Now, what did you think of on that latent tick?

PC: Just wondering, well, are you going to - if it's going to
click again.

LRH: Click click, click; There it is.

PC: Yeah. Just - just wondering, is it going to click again?

LRH: Well, no, it's latent.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: It's latent. I'm just being mean. I'm just cleaning it
up hard ...

PC: Yeah.

LRH: ... see? All right. In this session, have I missed a
withhold on you? Yeah. Tick.

PC: Hmm.

LRH: Tick.

PC: Well, what you're you've missed is I get uh ... just
my ... my mmm ... I'm thinking thoughts, and now it's a
missed withhold, and damn it. You know? 

LRH: What is it?

PC: Just, well.

LRH: Are you sitting there trying to run the session?

PC: Uh ...

LRH: Trying to keep yourself from thinking things and
thinking things and ...

PC: Uh ... yeah. Actually, I'm trying not to dump all my
case in your lap.

LRH: Well, thank you. Are you trying to keep me from
missing a withhold? (chuckles) 

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Yeah. All right. (chuckles)

PC: Yeah.

LRH: You're working much too hard, you know?

PC: Yeah. I am.

LRH: You know? That's my job just now. (laughs)

PC: Yeah. (chuckles) Okay.

LRH: All right. Now, what I've asked for and what I've
looked into, you've told me, haven't you?

PC: Mm-hm.

LRH: Right. All right. Now, let me ask this question again.
In this session, have I missed a withhold on you? There,
that's very latent, and we're just going to leave it that way.

PC: Good.

LRH: All right. Because I think that one came up from
anxiety of "is it going to be clean?" 

PC: Yeah. It did.

LRH: You sure have a hell of a time with the meter.

PC: Yeah, I do.

LRH: Yeah. You're not used to an auditor like me. I just
maul you around and say (chuckles) you're supposed to do
this and that.

PC: Haaa. (sighs)

LRH: All right. Look around here and tell me if you can
have anything. Click! 

PC: I can really here that picture. It reminds me of the 
outrigger picture, the one that's in The Outrigger in Seattle.

LRH: All right. Good enough. Let me check this again.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: Look around here and tell me if you can have anything.
Tiny slowdown. What else did you run into?

PC: I was staring right into the face of the camera.

LRH: Oh, all right. It isn't on, that one.

PC: Ah, good-o.

LRH: All right. Let me check it again.

PC: Okay

LRH: All right. Look around here and tell me if you can
have anything.

PC: That telephone.

LRH: That's my girl.

PC: Mm.

LRH: That was quite late.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: So we're just going to leave that one right there.

PC: Good.

LRH: You might give me a can - wait just a minute now. This ...

PC: I've got them clutched awfully hard.

LRH: That's all right. I just - well, let me make sure that
you've got some havingness here.

Squeeze them. Man! Man, who runs you with havingness that
far down? What's your ordinary havingness run?

PC: Point out something.

LRH: Hm?

PC: You mean the process?

LRH: Yeah.

PC: Point out something.

LRH: Yeah? Well, here we go. We're going to run a few
commands of that. All right? 

PC: Would it be if - okay if I just do it like ...

LRH: That? Just do it right like that.

PC: Okay.

LRH: All right. Point out something.

PC: You.

LRH: Thank you. Point out something.

PC: That lamp.

LRH: Thank you. Point out something.

PC: That picture.

LRH: Thank you. Point out something.

PC: That - that thing on the mantel.

LRH: Good. Point out something.

PC: The camera.

LRH: Thank you. All right. Squeeze the cans, just like you
did before.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: Boy, that's certainly not much can squeeze. How are
you holding those cans? 

PC: I'm clutching them.

LRH: All right. Give them a squeeze. All right. Point out
something.

PC: The telephone.

LRH: Good. Point out something.

PC: Those uh ... curtains.

LRH: Good. Point out something.

PC: The radiator.

LRH: Good. Point out something.

PC: The ... the television.

LRH: Good. Point out something.

PC: That chair.

LRH: Good. Point out something.

PC: That camera.

LRH: Good. Point out something.

PC: Uh ... that cabinet.

LRH: Good. All right. Squeeze the cans.

All right. Point out something.

PC: The couch.

LRH: Good. Point out something.

PC: That fireplace.

LRH: Good. Point out something.

PC: The fire.

LRH: Good Point out something.

PC: Uh, the model under - on the floor:

LRH: Good. Point out something.

PC: Uh ... that glass.

LRH: Good. Point out something.

PC: The lights.

LRH: All right. Put your cans in your lap now. All right.
Squeeze the cans. That's better.

PC: Mmm.

LRH: All right. Point out something.

PC: That case.

LRH: Good. Point out something.

PC: That chest.

LRH: Good. Point out something.

PC: Uh ... those wires.

LRH: Good. Point out something.

PC: The curtains.

LRH: All right. If it's all right with you, I'll give you
two more commands and end this process.

PC: Fine.

LRH: Very good. Point out something.

PC: Uh ... you. (chuckles)

LRH: Good. Point out something.

PC: The sign.

LRH: Good. All right. Is there anything you care to say
before I end that process? 

PC: Just I feel more here.

LRH: All right. Excellent. End of process.

PC: Okay.

LRH: Okay. Now, have you made any part of your gains this
session - any part of your goals for this session, which was
to find the missed withhold?"

PC: Yeah. That one doesn't seem very real to me somehow.
But uh ...

LRH: That goal? Yeah?

PC: Yeah. It just uh ... what's more real to me is that
uh ... the chronic PTP is more handled.

LRH: (chuckles) Oh, all right.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Well, did we find something about this, and so forth?

PC: Yeah, on that one.

LRH: All right. Then you say "to get this PTP handled." Do
you feel better about this PTP? 

PC: Yeah I do.

LRH: All right, honey. Very good. All right. Is there any
gains you'd care to mention? 

PC: Well I just feel uh ... much more comfortable about you. 
That's a big gain.

LRH: (chuckles) All right.

PC: Yeah.

LRH: Okay.

PC: Yes.

LRH: All right. Anything else?

PC: Uh ... (pause) There's another gain here, but I don't
know how to put it. Um ...

Yes, I do too know what it is. Uh ... um ... more
willingness to communicate freely in front of a-a-a group.
I didn't realize I'd be this comfortable about that.

LRH: (chuckles) Oh, all right. Very good.

PC: I didn't have to not-is them either. I was sort of on
the edge of awareness that they were there.

LRH: (chuckles) Well, I must say you came through excellently 
well with that little warning. That ...

PC: Yeah.

LRH: That was a surprise.

PC: I was totally in awe when I came up.

LRH: All right. And then, is there anything that you would
care to say or ask before I end this session?

PC: No. That's all.

LRH: All right. Is it all right with you if I end this session now?

PC: Mmm.

LRH: All right. Here it is. End of session.

Okay. Has the session ended for you?

PC: Yes.

LRH: Very good. Tell me I'm no longer auditing you.

PC: You're no longer auditing me.

LRH: All right. Very good.

PC: And thanks again.

LRH: You're certainly welcome.

[End of lecture]

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